>>Yes, I see both files but not the Pick Material one.<< That makes it even odder, Tami, and leaves me to believe it might be in the way your browser caches things, but we need to hear from someone who has downloaded it to make sure it's not just my machines that can see it. I've looked on each of the 3 machines in my office and it shows up. It's about 4MB and I can email it to you if your email handles that size file; just send me your email to tedb@tbmax.com . Thanks again Ted