Hi Ted, A question for when you get back... What,s your take on Sketchup ??? Everybody seems to want Sketchhup these days and, I lose a lot of work to wiz kids that can knock out a model in pretty short order - but, of course, they can't produce realistic materials (yet) so I still get the projects that require the realistic finished look - but, they are few and far..... Do you think that there is any benifit to learning the *@#!! program , or, is there a way to import and finish Sketchup models in Viz?? I'm just curious about how you feel about this software and have been wanting to ask your opinion for some time. John